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Man City charges LIVE: Punishment latest as 115 charges verdict decided The latest Manchester City charges news with updates on their potential punishment and appeal process as their Premier League rivals continue to consider action Welcome to our live blog dedicated to the aftermath of Manchester City being found to have breached the Premier League's financial rules. It is day number four after reports emerged that City had been found guilty over 114 of 115 charges, It is understood the club have already started the appeal process with chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak suggesting as such in his statement which included the phrase 'the process still has a long way to run'. The Premier League are yet to comment on the matter, but pundits and ex-pros have been clear on what punishment they should receive, with relegation a possibility. Sanctions are set to emerge before any appeal process is complete and the possibility of legal action from rivals remains as the situation unfolds. With all of that being said, Mirror Sport will have the latest on City's possible punishment and appeal against the 114 financial charges... Key Events Thank you for following our live coverage throughout the day We will be back bright and early tomorrow to bring you all the latest updates, so be sure to join us again then! City chief snubs Sky questions made after leaving top meeting Manchester City chief executive Ferran Soriano refused to answer any questions as he left a meeting of the European Football Clubs executive board in Copenhagen today. Sky News asked their CEO, who appeared to be on a phone call at one stage: What do you say to your fans? Can you assure them that things aren't going to be problematic now? Will it take years to finish this case? Is it time for some transparency for everyone to know? You told the meeting it could take years, but are you still insisting you're innocent? Is it not time to speak? Man City have 'best barrister in Britain' leading their case The former Aston Villa, Everton scout and Tottenham Hotspur scout Bryan King has told Football Insider: Lord David Pannick KC is leading the case; everybody in that circle reckons that he's the best KC barrister in Great Britain. People have said that he wouldn't have taken this case on knowing that they were going to lose.And this case is not over, by the way, let's be fair, it is not over, there's going to be appeals, this is what's been going on for the last three years. In September 26, they've come up with 114 guilty charges and one not guilty charge.Now, personally, I'd like to see the breakdown on the guilty charges, and I'd certainly like to see the one that they got away with. These charges and the sentencing, it won't happen this year, that's for sure. Liverpool told to sign two Man City players after guilty verdict Gabriel Agbonlahor believes Liverpool should try to sign Antoine Semenyo and Nico O'Reilly from Manchester City in the aftermath of their guilty verdict, which could lead to several players leaving them in the future. He said on talkSPORT: Nico O'Reilly — I would say, Liverpool. They are dying for a left-back. [Kostas] Tsimikas is their second choice, [Milos] Kerkez hasn’t been at their level, I think that would be a great move. Agbonlahor added: I am going [Antoine] Semenyo to Liverpool. He walks into their side on the left-hand side or right-hand side. He is the perfect player for Liverpool. More reaction from a 'very confident and very, very calm' Joe Hart Joe Hart does not think that City will be found guilty because of what their chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak said over the weekend.City's former goalkeeper said tonight on The Monday Night Club: If Man City are found guilty, which I don't think they are because of what Khaldoon [Al Mubarak] said, then there's conversations to be had, but right now I'm very confident and very, very calm. I'm very proud of what I've achieved and what I did with Manchester City and what we achieved as a team. And that doesn't change. That doesn't change until you tell me. Premier League broadcasters reach decision on refund request Broadcasters will reportedly not demand compensation from the Premier League if Manchester City are punished. The Daily Mail cites insiders close to the situation when claiming that any request for refunds would be 'highly unlikely'. However, it is said that discussions took place regarding a 'discount' for future deals. Losing a sufficient number of subscribers to reduce the value of their rights deal is apparently considered unlikely. Joe Hart shares his honest opinion on Friday's bombshell news Speaking on BBC Radio Five Live's The Monday Night Club, Joe Hart has said: Me, as a former player, heard my chairman speak; that's what I've heard. And then I've heard everyone else go down every single rabbit hole, every single wormhole, every single discussion, and been given free rein to say and do whatever they want about something that hasn't happened, hasn't been proven. So, my honest opinion is, I've got no reason not to trust Khaldoon (Al Mubarak). City chief claims that 'it's going to take a lot more time' City chief executive Ferran Soriano told those present at the European Football Clubs board meeting in Copenhagen on Monday that their legal battle against the Premier League will "take a lot more time". Soriano said: It's taken eight years to get here, and it's going to take a lot more time. Politician speaks out on City charges case Former Labour leader and Arsenal fan Jeremy Corbyn, via the Standard, has issued his thoughts on the Manchester City case, which included demanding they are relegated and even stripped of titles. This is a seismic judgement which demands seismic consequences. That includes a significant points deduction that results in their inevitable relegation.There should also be a substantial fine, the proceeds of which should all go to grassroots football.The league should also seriously consider stripping them of their titles. If their titles weren’t won fairly, why should they keep them? Remember, underneath these breaches are countless trophies and titles that other clubs and fans should have celebrated. Premier League 'recommendation' over City punishment The Premier League look set to have a say in the punishment dished out to Manchester City after they were found in breach of 114 financial charges. That is according to The Times, who have claimed that they will be able to recommend a punishment to the independent commission deciding their sanctions. The hearing to determine their punishment is expected to take place in the next few weeks with the Premier League — which has acted as the prosecutor in the case — able to submit about the sanctions viewed as appropriate. City boosted by 115 charges leak in appeal? Manchester City may actually benefit from their 114 alleged financial breaches being leaked in the media last Friday. According to Sky Sports, the issue could be deemed as serious if City take the case all the way to the High Court. Their report states they may be able to argue that the process has not been fair or impartial due to the verdict being leaked. In City's case against UEFA, part of their argument was that there had been leaks in the media. City, of course, won that case. Premier League 'recommendation' over City punishment The Premier League look set to have a say in the punishment dished out to Manchester City after they were found in breach of 114 financial charges. That is according to The Times, who have claimed that they will be able to recommend a punishment to the independent commission deciding their sanctions. The hearing to determine their punishment is expected to take place in the next few weeks with the Premier League — which has acted as the prosecutor in the case — able to submit about the sanctions viewed as appropriate. City sent verdict on losing Premier League titles Graeme Souness, via Track Radio, has admitted that Liverpool have a case to be awarded two Premier League titles if Manchester City lose their appeal against the 114 financial charges. The legacy is gone. If it goes the wrong way for them they'll be consigned to history that they were cheats and whatever they did, whatever they won in that period, should not count. There’s an argument for Liverpool to have a couple of Premier Leagues given to them.'For them [City] to be stripped of whatever they’ve won in that period of time, for them... money's not an issue.So whatever fine is just like a scratch on the surface. Relegation [as an option]... I don't know. But I come back to it. I think this is going to open a can of worms, which I think may go well beyond the realms of football. Afternoon recap Good afternoon football fans, my name is Kieran Horn and I will be bringing you the latest news as we have it on Manchester City's 115 charges case. With the verdict known to the public for 72 hours, let's have a quick recap of what we know so far: - Man City have been found guilty of 114 financial charges over a nine-year period between 2009 and 2018. 35 of those breaches relate to after that for failing to co-operate with the Premier League's investigation. - It is understood that City will be appealing the decision with that the next step in this prolonged process. - It does, however, not mean we will learn of the sanctions imposed until after that outcome with the belief being their punishment will be known before the appeal is complete. - Potential punishments range from a significant fine to explusion from the Premier League, though the latter may not be possible as the EFL are a separate body that may not accept City. - A points deduction significant enough to relegate City at the end of the season is certainly possible, though. That is just a quick look at the big things we know but for the latest updates and punishment verdicts be sure to stay right here for the remainder of the day! Premier League delay explained There has been some confusion among football fans as to why the Premier League are yet to release a statement on the reported guilty verdict. Sky Sports reports that the reason for silence is because the Premier League are bound by the process which requires the case to be held privately and confidentially. Therefore, all parties have to be in agreement as to when the information is made public. It's added that the leak could potentially be used by City in appeal to argue that the process has not been 'fair and impartial' Premier League teams sent 'strike' suggestion Premier League teams should go on strike if they feel that any punishment handed out to City is not enough, that is according to former Aston Villa striker Gabby Agbonlahor. Speaking on TalkSPORT, he said: “The punishment must fit the crime.“If I am the other 19 Premier League teams and the punishment does not fit the crime, I am not playing; I am going on strike.“All 19 teams are not playing games, as the punishment needs to be severe.” Erling Haaland's perfect response Amid the situation surrounding Manchester City, Norway took the decision to withdraw Erling Haaland from media duties on Saturday, ahead of their Nations League clash vs Portugal. And the City striker responded in the way he knows best, by getting on the scoresheer in the game. Unfortunately for Norway, Portugal scored two, meaning that they fell to a 2-1 loss. Punishment proposal Danny Mills believes Manchester City should be punished for as long as they are found to be cheated. The former Manchester City defender reckons his former team should be handed a points deduction over multiple seasons "People are talking about relegating them to the EFL - we know that they're two separate competitions, two separate bodies," he said on talkSPORT "I just heard from a fan, 'It would be great for the EFL'. No it wouldn't. City would bounce straight back immediately, which means instead of two spots available for (automatic) promotion (from the Championship), there would only be one. "You're only going to play Manchester City twice that season, so you're not going to make huge revenue. You've only got 20,000 people in your stadium, one sell-out is not going to change your whole season in any way, shape or form. "You go to City, you're not going to get any money there anyway because it's all home gate receipts. "I was listening over the last few days and I think, once everything has settled, realistically the only way going forward to do this is to maybe look at every season that they allegedly cheated. "Every season they have cheated, give them a massive points deduction for every season going forward. "So if they cheated for nine years, give them a 20-point deduction for the next nine years and see how that goes, see where they get to in that. "There is no fair and just system, because it's going so far back retrospectively, and it's going to be very, very difficult because other clubs are going to then complain that they lost out and got relegated, how do you work that out?" Players new risk Former Newcastle United forward Alan Shearer believes that Manchester City's star will have known the risk the club could be found guilty and punished, before joining in recent years. Shearer said on the Rest of Football podcast, that agents must have discussed the possibility. “They must have known that though. There must’ve been that element of knowing it was a possibility. Whatever gets thrown at them, agents must’ve spoken about this scenario. “It’s huge, isn’t it? The ramifications for the football club, for everyone who works at the football club, the sponsors, everything. It’s huge news. We’re all sitting waiting to see what will be given to them as a punishment. I would guess they will appeal, I don’t know. It’s massive.” Points deduction awaits Dan Chapman, Managing Partner and Head of Sports Law at Leathes Prior, does not believe Manchester City can avoid a points deduction. He told TeamTalk that a financial punishment is 'inconceivable'. “The most serious issue Manchester City may now be comprehending is not the financial offences themselves, but the failure to co-operate, which put another way, were charges that City were deliberately choosing to either delay or obstruct the investigation," he said. “For serious and multiple offences of obstruction, if that is indeed what City have been found guilty of, for the sanction to be only a financial one the precedent that would be set is inconceivable. The commission would naturally be concerned that they would be sending a message that a club, when confronted with serious disciplinary allegations, could effectively buy their way out of trouble by not co-operating.” Agbonlahor frustrations Gabriel Agbonlahor has expressed his frustration with Manchester City, following the apparent emergence of their guilt. "I played in that era, 2009 to 2018. We got relegated in 2016, for six seasons I played in it You know what they did in 2009? They took our best player, Gareth Barry. "You know what they did in 2010? They took our best player, James Milner. You know what they did in 2014? They took our best player, Fabian Delph. "As a Villa player in that era. a bunch of cheaters have taken our best players, we've gone to the Etihad and got some spankings from Yaya Toure, Sergio Aguero and David Silva, where did they get the money from to buy these players?" Man CIty players will be devasted Martin Keown believes that Manchester City stars will be devastated by the club's apparent guilt, particularly those involved in the period under investigation. Speaking on talkSPORT, Keown described City's success as a 'sham'. "I'd be devastated as a player if everything I achieved was suddenly wiped away. When you walk the streets now as a player, when you take to the pitch, the pressure on these players. This is not going to be the Manchester City we admired. "Pep would have come to the club without what they'd achieved in their formative years. Players were paid double contracts. "If I were a player who walked the streets head held high, that changes for me now because I've been part of something that was a sham." Are City owners fit and proper? Manchester United Supporters' Trust have issued a response to the news of Manchester City's guilt. If their rivals' appeal fails, they want to see a serious punishment. The MUST believe that City's ownership must be revisited. The statement reads: "In recent days, MUST has been asked by a number of media organisations and others to set out our view following reports that Manchester City have been found guilty of the overwhelming majority – reportedly 114 out of 115 – of the Premier League charges brought against them."Manchester City continue to deny wrongdoing and are expected to appeal. They are entitled to do so. But if these findings are upheld, this cannot be dismissed as an accounting error or an accidental breach of complex rules. It would amount to industrialised cheating on an unprecedented scale."For years MUST has argued that ownership matters in football. At Manchester United we have seen one form of bad ownership: the Glazers loading the club with enormous debt while extracting hundreds of millions of pounds through dividends, interest and associated costs."At the other extreme are owners who use enormous external wealth to financially dope their clubs and cheat rules designed to protect fair competition. Neither represents proper stewardship of institutions which belong at the heart of their communities."If the findings against Manchester City are upheld, the punishment must fit the crime and act as a genuine deterrent to any owner considering the same route. Stripping titles or other retrospective sanctions may form part of that, but the more important question is what happens next."Manchester City has been transformed during this period into one of the most powerful clubs in world football. If industrial-scale cheating helped create that advantage, one season outside the Premier League would plainly leave much of that benefit intact."The punishment therefore has to remove the advantage gained, not simply impose a temporary inconvenience. There is also a fundamental question of ownership and trust."Manchester City’s owners continue to insist the club has done nothing wrong despite the findings reportedly reached by an independent commission and the compelling documentary evidence which has been in the public domain for years."If those findings survive appeal, football must ask whether the same ownership which presided over industrialised cheating can still be regarded as fit to own and control a football club."If trust cannot be restored while that ownership remains in place, expulsion from the football pyramid unless and until there is a change of ownership should be among the sanctions considered."Football clubs are not ordinary businesses. They are cultural institutions and community assets. Owners who exploit them and extract their wealth are not appropriate custodians. Nor are owners who financially dope them and cheat the rules."Football should tolerate neither. This should be a reset moment to review the ownership of our clubs and the first step is to start to restore trust." Transfer uncertainty While there has been speculation over Erling Haaland's future, with Real Madrid and Barcelona linked, a Manchester City move is now in doubt. Spanish outlet Sport report those same clubs are on alert for 16-year-old Philadelphia Union midfielder Cavan Sullivan, who has agreed a move to the Etihad when he turns 18. Premier League silence continues Manchester City released a statement following the news, although they did not acknowledge any guilt in their statement. Meanwhile, the Premier League have said nothing. The BBC report that the verdict was sent to club executives last week, but a non-disclosure agreement was required to open the file. That makes it seem there could be some wait until the process plays out through sanction and appeal before the division says anything. City case could still take years The results of the Manchester City case may not be known for years, according to Sky Sports. The scale of the case, with an appeal and a possible case at the high court could ensure the process continues to be dragged out. Haaland future Erling Haaland will quickly leave Manchester City if the punishment is severe enough due to his desire to win trophies according to ex-Spain midfielder Gaizka Mendieta. "Erling Haaland’s future is interesting," he said. "Let’s see how things pan out at Man City and whether the appeal turns out to be successful. "But players like Haaland want to win trophies. I agree that if he moves, which could happen, the price tag will be massive, certainly not below a hundred million. That is just the way it is. "In terms of where I see him, I could imagine him at both Real Madrid and Barca. However, I sense that Barca’s style would be better for him, and perhaps better for the club too. "The way he makes those runs and his power in the box suits the Hansi Flick style quite well. "We are talking about something quite far down the line, but if things don’t work out at City this season or over the next couple of seasons, he is still very young and very ambitious. He won’t want to stay at a club where they aren’t winning trophies." 'Not my concern' Italy boss Roberto Mancini brushed off questions over Manchester City's situation despite being in charge of the club in the period that was subject to charges. "It's not an issue that concerns me. It's nothing new because this matter has been discussed for the last four or five years."Manchester City has not been found guilty, and the alleged double contract is not my concern. It's their issue, not mine." Good morning We are back again as we wait to see how the story unfolds. Will the Premier League issue a response today? We'll keep you updated along the way as we find out. Pulis feels "cheated" by Manchester City Writing in a column for the BBC, Tony Pulis explained: "Well, I know all Stoke supporters will be demanding that City pass the trophy over and every club that has been affected by their actions will be considering their legal options. "I don't expect Manchester City to phone me or the club up and offer back the 2011 FA Cup and the winners' medals their players received. I don't seriously believe any other trophies and titles will be handed back over either. A points deduction and a massive fine feels far more likely. "But I still feel cheated. Whatever happens next, we won't ever get that day back and the chance to celebrate around Stoke-on-Trent with the cup and medals we so honestly fought for. After breaking the rules, Manchester City got to do that instead."

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